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Initiation
This page contains the result
of some years of searching,
conversation, literature,
ancient books.
On another webpage in Home2b.nl
Robert gave his point of view
that initiation existed both
in Ancient Christianity and in
Modern Christianity,
although in different ways and
with different procedures.
See the
webpage initiation existed.
Teachings and holy writings
were aimed at certain groups of initiates.
Even the New testament,
writing for Modern Christianity believers,
has certainly secret teachings
for distinct groups.
On this page some results of
the research will be published.
Some things are still missing,
some of the facts perhaps are unprecise.
This is because initiation in
Ancient Christianity was secret.
Nobody was allowed to bring
procedures in the open.
Initiation in Ancient
Christianity:
|
Before initiation |
First Initiation |
Second Initiation |
Third Initiation |
name of the
believer in the intitiation: |
neophytes; also called
suckling calves "vituli
lactenses" |
fish |
lamb |
new born |
name of the
official involved |
teacher? |
fisherman |
shepherd |
mother |
name of the
special drink or sacrament: |
fish and bread? |
water |
milk and honey |
wine and water |
special means
used: |
? |
mystic music |
? |
bridal chamber |
apparently the
place of happening: |
net |
pond |
? |
womb |
This table gives an overview
of the three initiations
of Ancient Christianity. In
the writings there are references
to even higher grades of
initiation, but Robert has doubts whether
these higher grades were in
existence and if so whether they were standard.
Still there are question
marks. Further research is necessary.
The initial
gathering:
Apparently a net played a role
in the ceremony.
The new believers were
literally catched in the net.
The first
Initiation:
The priest-fisherman was
catching the Fish symbolically swimming in the pond.
A room has been found with a
painted fond on the floor.
As a sacrament a cup of Water
was used.
The second initiation:
The initiated Lambs were
drinking milk and honey
as a symbol of resurrection
from death.
What the Initiation procedure
was is (at least for me) unknown.
The third initiation:
The Mother does give life to
the Newly Born.
A cup with water and wine was
used as a sacrament.
Did the initiated have to come
out of a symbolical womb?
Was the Mother symbolized with
a statue or with the presence of the Priestess?
Was the Bridal Chamber the Holy
of Holiest of the local Christian temple?
First that comes into mind
seeing this table of initiation
is the real difference between
the Hebrew religion and
the Ancient Christianity
belief system.
Although a net is mentioned in
connection to Yahweh,
the fish and fisherman concept
are certainly not Hebrew.
So is the use of honey in a
sacramantal way.
Honey is excluded from the
Hebrew religion in Leviticus.
The initiations are very much
in line with the Orpheus religion.
The Christ (which is not the
same as Jesous in Ancient Christianity)
is named the "Shepherd of
the Lambs" and
"Fisher of man" and
"Source of Mercy" with which is meant the
sacramental cup of Water, and
the "heavenly milk"
which is the sacramental cup
of honey and milk for the Lambs.
The milk and honey sacrament
has a direct relation with the
resurrection from Death.
The Water sacrament had a direct
relation with becoming children of the "ecclesia",
which means the community of
believers,
but also becoming immortal
holy fishes.
In many religions all fish was
holy, like in the Celtic religion.
The Orpheus religion had
certain types of fish as holy,
the so called
"Ecclesia" is a
concept belonging directly to Ancient Christianity.
The sacramental use of milk is
also known in the New Testament.
1 Petrus, 1 Corinthians,
Letter to the Hebrews, also in Barnabas.
Milk is seen connected with
the revelation of the Logos.
The bishop had in Ancient
Christianity two symbols of power:
1. the mystic ring of the
fisher
(annulus piscatotius)
and
2. the staff of the Shepherd
(crozier)
This lasted until 900AD and is
still recognizable in modern ways of behaving.
The ring and staff are also
the symbols of Orpheus.
There are many reasons to
suppose that the Orpheus religion and the Ancient Christian religion
were very much related and
influencing each other in many ways.
Still there are also thick
lines to other religions,
like the Hathors religion, the
Amen religion, the Hebrew religion and more.
Music is an important part of
the First Innitiation.
The harp, the lyre, the flute
are all used to change dimensions and attitutes.
We know that the Ancient Egyptian
religion also used music very much.
The music had also magical
effects on humans and animails and birds.
Ancient Egypt religion did use
magic on a daily and regular basis.
In ancient Egypt and in
Thracia (Orpheus religion) were also temple choirs singing hymns and psalms.
This could mean that the
Ancient Christians were also singing in choirs.
Music was also a connection to
the universe, because the universe was seen
as making heavenly music
everywhere, even in the interstellar space.
Suggestions and literature
sources of Antiquity
are welcome.
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